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dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 08:36
Het blijkt dat Avent flesjes (o.a.) een stof bevatten die schadelijk kan zijn voor de ontwikkeling voor baby's. Er wordt nu aangeraden om geen kokend water in flesjes te gieten. Het gaat om flesjes met dit symbool erop 
en dat zijn kennelijk ook vaak de flesjes die hard zijn (die je dus niet kunt indrukken.
Zelf heb ik niet zo heel veel flesjes gebruikt maar wel altijd uitgekookt, dus vraag me af of dat ook BPA (Bisphenol A) in de melk die daarna wordt verwarmd, lekt. In Canada gaan willen ze de flesjes verbannen en op de Amerikaanse website van Avent staat dat ze in de toekomst BPA vrije flesjes gaan maken.
en dat zijn kennelijk ook vaak de flesjes die hard zijn (die je dus niet kunt indrukken.Zelf heb ik niet zo heel veel flesjes gebruikt maar wel altijd uitgekookt, dus vraag me af of dat ook BPA (Bisphenol A) in de melk die daarna wordt verwarmd, lekt. In Canada gaan willen ze de flesjes verbannen en op de Amerikaanse website van Avent staat dat ze in de toekomst BPA vrije flesjes gaan maken.
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 08:41
De site van de VWA zegt iets anders:
Bisfenol A in babyflesjes
In oktober 2003 heeft de VWA literatuuronderzoek gedaan naar bisfenol A in babyflesjes. De VWA is vooralsnog van oordeel dat de aangetroffen hoeveelheden bisfenol A in babyflesjes zo klein zijn, dat ze geen risico vormen voor de gezondheid. In 2005 heeft de VWA laboratoriumonderzoek gedaan naar de afgifte van bisfenol A uit zowel nieuwe als gebruikte polycarbonaatflesjes.
Mocht u echter niet gerust zijn, dan kunt u de nieuwe flesjes wassen, zodat er nòg minder bisfenol A in het levensmiddel terechtkomt. Maak dan nieuwe kinderflesjes voor gebruik goed schoon met warm water en afwasmiddel. Spoel ze na met schoon water.
Welke bron gebruik jij? Want de VWA gebruikt een onderzoek uit 2005...
Bisfenol A in babyflesjes
In oktober 2003 heeft de VWA literatuuronderzoek gedaan naar bisfenol A in babyflesjes. De VWA is vooralsnog van oordeel dat de aangetroffen hoeveelheden bisfenol A in babyflesjes zo klein zijn, dat ze geen risico vormen voor de gezondheid. In 2005 heeft de VWA laboratoriumonderzoek gedaan naar de afgifte van bisfenol A uit zowel nieuwe als gebruikte polycarbonaatflesjes.
Mocht u echter niet gerust zijn, dan kunt u de nieuwe flesjes wassen, zodat er nòg minder bisfenol A in het levensmiddel terechtkomt. Maak dan nieuwe kinderflesjes voor gebruik goed schoon met warm water en afwasmiddel. Spoel ze na met schoon water.
Welke bron gebruik jij? Want de VWA gebruikt een onderzoek uit 2005...
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 08:49
Bloempje, ik heb even zitten lezen, maar ik vind dat je het iets te stellkig stelt. Deze hele tekst krijst 'cover your ass' voor het geval macrochaotisch zwevende ouders een vlekje op de toet van hun snoetje zien. Zo goed als alle onderzoeken die avent in dit artikel neerzet, zeggen dat BPA momenteel veilig is voor baby's. Zelfs de FDA, en dat zijn nogal zeikerds.
Pas op: lange lap tekst:
What is Bisphenol A?
Bisphenol A (BPA) is a chemical used primarily in the production of polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins. Polycarbonate plastic is used for baby bottles (as well as water bottles, medical devices, sports equipment etc) because it prevents cracking and shattering that can lead to injuries.
Do Philips AVENT baby bottles contain Bisphenol A (BPA)?
Philips AVENT reusable bottles, such as the AirFlex, are made from polycarbonate plastic. Polycarbonate plastic is approved for use and lawful for sale in every country where Philips AVENT products are sold, including in North America and Europe.
Do ALL Philips AVENT feeding products contain Bisphenol A (BPA)?
No. Our range of baby feeding products also includes products made from materials other than polycarbonate, hence not containing BPA. The Philips AVENT Via Feeding System and Magic Cup range (Cups and Sportster) are made from polypropylene or polyethylene, neither of which contains BPA.
The Tempo line relies on a nurser that works with a disposable liner. While the nurser is made from Polycarbonate plastic, the disposable liner is BPA-free. There is no contact between any liquid and any plastic containing BPA.
Why do some scientists say that these bottles are dangerous?
Some scientists are worried that this chemical substance, Bisphenol A (BPA), can leach at dangerous levels from the plastic and into the liquid held in the baby bottle when bottles are heated to extreme temperatures.
The use of plastic for baby bottles is regulated by authorities such as the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) and the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The US FDA evaluates BPA as a “food additive” and has found that BPA may be “safely used as components of articles that contact food.” As recently as January 2008, the FDA reconfirmed its long standing view regarding the safety of polycarbonate for food contact, including its use with baby feeding bottles. In 2007, the EFSA actually increased the acceptable level of BPA. Further, in February 2008, the FDA wrote to Congress to indicate that, under the “most severe conditions of use,” the “FDA believes that this level of exposure to adults and infants is safe” as defined by the FDA’s regulations, and that there is an appropriate margin of exposure “for the conclusion of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of use.”
What is Philips AVENT’s reaction to Health Canada’s finding that there are health concerns relating to the use of polycarbonate plastic?
We note that the Health Canada report is a draft assessment and subject to review and comment by experts in the field. We note that Health Canada’s draft assessment indicated that in their assessment “that Bisphenol-A exposure to newborn and infants is below levels that pose a risk” but have indicated that the gap is not “large enough.” We will of course carefully review whatever ruling Health Canada ultimately makes and endeavor to provide some clarity to the moms and dads who are the ones most effected by this decision.
Does Philips AVENT plan to dispute Health Canada’s assessment?
We note that the Health Canada report is a draft assessment and subject to review and comment by experts in the field. Philips AVENT independently tests its products to ensure they meet the standards set forth by governing bodies around the world, and we will comply with the regulations set forth by such bodies. We note that Health Canada agrees with the other regulatory bodies that BPA exposure for newborns and infants “is below levels that pose a risk”, but is taking a different regulatory approach than the rest of the world. Recently, the US FDA informed Congress of its belief that there was sufficient margin of exposure “for the conclusion of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of use.”
Has Health Canada banned the sale of polycarbonate plastic?
No. For more information on Health Canada’s assessment you can visit its website at http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca.
Is it true that retailers are asking manufacturers to “voluntarily recall” products made with polycarbonate plastic?
Some Canadian retailers are taking preemptive measures to remove polycarbonate plastic from their shelves; however no recall has been issued.
Are US retailers still selling polycarbonate bottles?
Polycarbonate baby bottles are fully approved by the FDA for sale in the US. A limited number of retailers, including Wal Mart, CVS and Babies R Us have stated that they intend to stop selling polycarbonate products in 2009.
Can I get a refund if I return my AVENT bottles to the store?
We have full confidence in our current bottle, which has been used by millions of healthy babies in over 70 countries worldwide since they were introduced more than 20 years ago.
If, however, you are uncomfortable with your current bottle system, we encourage you to try one of Philips AVENT’s other feeding products, which are made from alternate materials, including the Tempo disposable feeding systems, the Magic Cups, and the Via Feeding System, all of which are interchangeable with Philips AVENT nipples.
Different retailers have different product return policies so you should contact your specific retailer to understand its product return policy.
So are the bottles safe or not?
Scientists around the world have been studying the effects of bisphenol A for years and governing bodies, such as the FDA and EFSA have approved the usage of Polycarbonate plastics in consumer goods, specifically with contact with foods in mind.
The scientists who commented on the Health Canada study concluded in their assessment that bisphenol A exposure to newborns and infants is below levels that may pose a risk, however, the gap between exposure and effect is not large enough.
What temperature is safe to heat the bottles?
Some studies have concluded that the degree to which bisphenol A migrates from polycarbonate containers into liquid appears to depend more on the temperature of the liquid than the age of the container, i.e., more migration with higher temperatures. However, regulatory bodies, including the FDA have reviewed these studies and continue to indicate that bottles with BPA may be used to contain foods and liquids.
If you are concerned about what temperature to heat your bottles, Philips AVENT suggests using a bottle warmer that can be programmed to heat liquid according to volume, which will help regulate temperature.
What number are Philips AVENT bottles? I’ve heard that #7 are should be avoided.
The number 7 is often visible on plastic objects which are made from polycarbonate and several other materals. All Philips AVENT baby bottles are made from Polycarbonate, hence they are #7.
Sometimes the symbol appears as follows:
Why does no number appear on the Philips AVENT bottle?
These symbols were created to identify plastics for recycling purposes. The number 7 for example not only represents polycarbonate, but a number of plastics.
Manufacturers are not always legally required to place the symbol on their products. We are reviewing this policy to see how we can best provide consumers with the information they need.
If I want to learn more about BPA, where can I go?
http://www.Bisphenol-a.org
Isn’t it just safer to use glass bottles or bottles made from other materials?
Alternate materials are available, including within the Philips AVENT product line, and we respect every mom and dad’s right to choose the baby bottle that works best for their child. For over 20 years, parents have chosen AVENT bottles, with millions of babies benefiting from what many consider to be the best designed, best engineered baby feeding bottle in the world. We constantly strive to reach new levels of design and engineering excellence to meet the evolving needs of parents and babies. Building on its already diverse portfolio of infant feeding products, Philips AVENT will introduce new materials into its line this summer.
Why doesn’t Philips AVENT introduce a bottle made from another material?
We have full confidence in our current bottle, which has been used by millions of healthy babies in over 70 countries worldwide. We always strive to reach new levels of design and engineering excellence to meet the evolving needs of parents and babies. Building on its already diverse portfolio of infant feeding products, Philips AVENT will introduce new materials into its line this summer.
Will the new infant feeding product be BPA-Free?
Yes.
What bottles are safe to use with my breast pump?
The Philips AVENT VIA storage systems allows you to express, store and feed from the same convenient containers, which are made from materials that do not contain BPA.
Who else has tested BPA and approved it for use?
1. In January 2008, the FDA reconfirmed its long standing view regarding the safety of polycarbonate for food contact, including baby feeding bottles. The FDA has indicated that it actively reviews the safety of BPA and recently completed a review of available data obtained from animal studies, and migration studies. Based on the results of the migration studies conducted by FDA chemists, the FDA determined that the “dietary exposure to BPA is orders of magnitude below the levels known to cause toxic effects in animals.”
2. International regulatory agencies responsible for consumer protection, including the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), the UK Food Standards Agency, the German Federal Institute of Risk Assessment, and the Japanese Ministry of Health have all studied the use of BPA and concluded that it can be used in the manufacture of baby bottles.
Pas op: lange lap tekst:
What is Bisphenol A?
Bisphenol A (BPA) is a chemical used primarily in the production of polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins. Polycarbonate plastic is used for baby bottles (as well as water bottles, medical devices, sports equipment etc) because it prevents cracking and shattering that can lead to injuries.
Do Philips AVENT baby bottles contain Bisphenol A (BPA)?
Philips AVENT reusable bottles, such as the AirFlex, are made from polycarbonate plastic. Polycarbonate plastic is approved for use and lawful for sale in every country where Philips AVENT products are sold, including in North America and Europe.
Do ALL Philips AVENT feeding products contain Bisphenol A (BPA)?
No. Our range of baby feeding products also includes products made from materials other than polycarbonate, hence not containing BPA. The Philips AVENT Via Feeding System and Magic Cup range (Cups and Sportster) are made from polypropylene or polyethylene, neither of which contains BPA.
The Tempo line relies on a nurser that works with a disposable liner. While the nurser is made from Polycarbonate plastic, the disposable liner is BPA-free. There is no contact between any liquid and any plastic containing BPA.
Why do some scientists say that these bottles are dangerous?
Some scientists are worried that this chemical substance, Bisphenol A (BPA), can leach at dangerous levels from the plastic and into the liquid held in the baby bottle when bottles are heated to extreme temperatures.
The use of plastic for baby bottles is regulated by authorities such as the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) and the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The US FDA evaluates BPA as a “food additive” and has found that BPA may be “safely used as components of articles that contact food.” As recently as January 2008, the FDA reconfirmed its long standing view regarding the safety of polycarbonate for food contact, including its use with baby feeding bottles. In 2007, the EFSA actually increased the acceptable level of BPA. Further, in February 2008, the FDA wrote to Congress to indicate that, under the “most severe conditions of use,” the “FDA believes that this level of exposure to adults and infants is safe” as defined by the FDA’s regulations, and that there is an appropriate margin of exposure “for the conclusion of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of use.”
What is Philips AVENT’s reaction to Health Canada’s finding that there are health concerns relating to the use of polycarbonate plastic?
We note that the Health Canada report is a draft assessment and subject to review and comment by experts in the field. We note that Health Canada’s draft assessment indicated that in their assessment “that Bisphenol-A exposure to newborn and infants is below levels that pose a risk” but have indicated that the gap is not “large enough.” We will of course carefully review whatever ruling Health Canada ultimately makes and endeavor to provide some clarity to the moms and dads who are the ones most effected by this decision.
Does Philips AVENT plan to dispute Health Canada’s assessment?
We note that the Health Canada report is a draft assessment and subject to review and comment by experts in the field. Philips AVENT independently tests its products to ensure they meet the standards set forth by governing bodies around the world, and we will comply with the regulations set forth by such bodies. We note that Health Canada agrees with the other regulatory bodies that BPA exposure for newborns and infants “is below levels that pose a risk”, but is taking a different regulatory approach than the rest of the world. Recently, the US FDA informed Congress of its belief that there was sufficient margin of exposure “for the conclusion of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of use.”
Has Health Canada banned the sale of polycarbonate plastic?
No. For more information on Health Canada’s assessment you can visit its website at http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca.
Is it true that retailers are asking manufacturers to “voluntarily recall” products made with polycarbonate plastic?
Some Canadian retailers are taking preemptive measures to remove polycarbonate plastic from their shelves; however no recall has been issued.
Are US retailers still selling polycarbonate bottles?
Polycarbonate baby bottles are fully approved by the FDA for sale in the US. A limited number of retailers, including Wal Mart, CVS and Babies R Us have stated that they intend to stop selling polycarbonate products in 2009.
Can I get a refund if I return my AVENT bottles to the store?
We have full confidence in our current bottle, which has been used by millions of healthy babies in over 70 countries worldwide since they were introduced more than 20 years ago.
If, however, you are uncomfortable with your current bottle system, we encourage you to try one of Philips AVENT’s other feeding products, which are made from alternate materials, including the Tempo disposable feeding systems, the Magic Cups, and the Via Feeding System, all of which are interchangeable with Philips AVENT nipples.
Different retailers have different product return policies so you should contact your specific retailer to understand its product return policy.
So are the bottles safe or not?
Scientists around the world have been studying the effects of bisphenol A for years and governing bodies, such as the FDA and EFSA have approved the usage of Polycarbonate plastics in consumer goods, specifically with contact with foods in mind.
The scientists who commented on the Health Canada study concluded in their assessment that bisphenol A exposure to newborns and infants is below levels that may pose a risk, however, the gap between exposure and effect is not large enough.
What temperature is safe to heat the bottles?
Some studies have concluded that the degree to which bisphenol A migrates from polycarbonate containers into liquid appears to depend more on the temperature of the liquid than the age of the container, i.e., more migration with higher temperatures. However, regulatory bodies, including the FDA have reviewed these studies and continue to indicate that bottles with BPA may be used to contain foods and liquids.
If you are concerned about what temperature to heat your bottles, Philips AVENT suggests using a bottle warmer that can be programmed to heat liquid according to volume, which will help regulate temperature.
What number are Philips AVENT bottles? I’ve heard that #7 are should be avoided.
The number 7 is often visible on plastic objects which are made from polycarbonate and several other materals. All Philips AVENT baby bottles are made from Polycarbonate, hence they are #7.
Sometimes the symbol appears as follows:
Why does no number appear on the Philips AVENT bottle?
These symbols were created to identify plastics for recycling purposes. The number 7 for example not only represents polycarbonate, but a number of plastics.
Manufacturers are not always legally required to place the symbol on their products. We are reviewing this policy to see how we can best provide consumers with the information they need.
If I want to learn more about BPA, where can I go?
http://www.Bisphenol-a.org
Isn’t it just safer to use glass bottles or bottles made from other materials?
Alternate materials are available, including within the Philips AVENT product line, and we respect every mom and dad’s right to choose the baby bottle that works best for their child. For over 20 years, parents have chosen AVENT bottles, with millions of babies benefiting from what many consider to be the best designed, best engineered baby feeding bottle in the world. We constantly strive to reach new levels of design and engineering excellence to meet the evolving needs of parents and babies. Building on its already diverse portfolio of infant feeding products, Philips AVENT will introduce new materials into its line this summer.
Why doesn’t Philips AVENT introduce a bottle made from another material?
We have full confidence in our current bottle, which has been used by millions of healthy babies in over 70 countries worldwide. We always strive to reach new levels of design and engineering excellence to meet the evolving needs of parents and babies. Building on its already diverse portfolio of infant feeding products, Philips AVENT will introduce new materials into its line this summer.
Will the new infant feeding product be BPA-Free?
Yes.
What bottles are safe to use with my breast pump?
The Philips AVENT VIA storage systems allows you to express, store and feed from the same convenient containers, which are made from materials that do not contain BPA.
Who else has tested BPA and approved it for use?
1. In January 2008, the FDA reconfirmed its long standing view regarding the safety of polycarbonate for food contact, including baby feeding bottles. The FDA has indicated that it actively reviews the safety of BPA and recently completed a review of available data obtained from animal studies, and migration studies. Based on the results of the migration studies conducted by FDA chemists, the FDA determined that the “dietary exposure to BPA is orders of magnitude below the levels known to cause toxic effects in animals.”
2. International regulatory agencies responsible for consumer protection, including the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), the UK Food Standards Agency, the German Federal Institute of Risk Assessment, and the Japanese Ministry of Health have all studied the use of BPA and concluded that it can be used in the manufacture of baby bottles.
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 08:55
Dit nieuws is naar buiten gekomen naar aanleiding van resultaten van een onderzoek vorige maand. In Amerika en Canada worden sommige flesjes van de schappen gehaald.
Ik wilde alleen het advies dat hier in Engeland is gegeven doorgeven en dat is dat je geen kokend water in de flesjes moet doen.
Dit is de informatie die de National Childbirth Trust uitgeeft:
Bisphenol A or (2,2-bis(4-hydroxyphenyl) propane is a chemical which causes damage to animals and probably humans during critical stages of their development. It interferes with healthy growth and body function. Bisphenol A mimics the effect of the hormone oestrogen in the body. It binds with oestrogen receptors, but doesn’t replace the activity of oestrogen. It affects reproductive, neurological and immune systems.
Babies are particularly vulnerable to hormone mimicking effects because they are growing rapidly, both in the womb and in their early months and years.
Bisphenol A Is one of the highest volume chemicals produced worldwide. It is a monomer used to make polycarbonate and epoxy resins. These products are used in bottles, toys in the lining of food cans and dental sealants. Bisphenol A has been shown to leak out of feeding bottles which are made form this sort of plastic The recent Canadian/US studies the bottles did not leach Bisphenol A at room temperature.
It is polycarbonate plastic (clear shatter proof plastic) bottles, which often have the number 7 in the recycling triangle on the bottle, or the letters “PC” near the recycling triangle that leach Bisphenol A.
There are plastic bottles on the market that do not contain Bisphenol A. Glass bottles do not leak Bisphenol A.
Bottles are less likely to leach Bisphenol A at room temperature but it is important that formula feeds are made up using water at 70oC because powdered infant formula is not sterile and does sometimes contain harmful bacteria. Heating bottles or pouring hot liquids into bottles, and repeated washing which creates scratches increases the rate of Bisphenol A leaking from bottles but it is important that bottles are cleaned thoroughly and sterilized to prevent illness in babies. Sterilising solutions may be more appropriate for use with polycarbonate bottles.
Ik wilde alleen het advies dat hier in Engeland is gegeven doorgeven en dat is dat je geen kokend water in de flesjes moet doen.
Dit is de informatie die de National Childbirth Trust uitgeeft:
Bisphenol A or (2,2-bis(4-hydroxyphenyl) propane is a chemical which causes damage to animals and probably humans during critical stages of their development. It interferes with healthy growth and body function. Bisphenol A mimics the effect of the hormone oestrogen in the body. It binds with oestrogen receptors, but doesn’t replace the activity of oestrogen. It affects reproductive, neurological and immune systems.
Babies are particularly vulnerable to hormone mimicking effects because they are growing rapidly, both in the womb and in their early months and years.
Bisphenol A Is one of the highest volume chemicals produced worldwide. It is a monomer used to make polycarbonate and epoxy resins. These products are used in bottles, toys in the lining of food cans and dental sealants. Bisphenol A has been shown to leak out of feeding bottles which are made form this sort of plastic The recent Canadian/US studies the bottles did not leach Bisphenol A at room temperature.
It is polycarbonate plastic (clear shatter proof plastic) bottles, which often have the number 7 in the recycling triangle on the bottle, or the letters “PC” near the recycling triangle that leach Bisphenol A.
There are plastic bottles on the market that do not contain Bisphenol A. Glass bottles do not leak Bisphenol A.
Bottles are less likely to leach Bisphenol A at room temperature but it is important that formula feeds are made up using water at 70oC because powdered infant formula is not sterile and does sometimes contain harmful bacteria. Heating bottles or pouring hot liquids into bottles, and repeated washing which creates scratches increases the rate of Bisphenol A leaking from bottles but it is important that bottles are cleaned thoroughly and sterilized to prevent illness in babies. Sterilising solutions may be more appropriate for use with polycarbonate bottles.
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 09:27
Bloempje, volgens mij zegt de FDA (en de anderen) dat BPA weliswaar uit het plastic kan lekken, maar dat het NIET gevaarlijk is voor baby's.
Ik heb wat krantenartikelen gevonden over het gebeuren, en in Canada willen ze BPA in de ban gooien. Als reactie daarop hebben sommige supermarkten er zelf voor gekozen om de flesjes niet meer te verkopen: er is dus geen sprake van een massale recall.
Het klinkt mij allemaal wat paniekerig. Persoonlijk denk ik dat de kunstvoeding die meestal in de flesjes zit, gevaarlijker is voor baby's dan BPA.
Bovendien: BPA lekt uit het plastic bij temperaturen van 70 graden en hoger. Wie geeft er nou een flesje van 70 graden aan een baby?
Ik heb wat krantenartikelen gevonden over het gebeuren, en in Canada willen ze BPA in de ban gooien. Als reactie daarop hebben sommige supermarkten er zelf voor gekozen om de flesjes niet meer te verkopen: er is dus geen sprake van een massale recall.
Het klinkt mij allemaal wat paniekerig. Persoonlijk denk ik dat de kunstvoeding die meestal in de flesjes zit, gevaarlijker is voor baby's dan BPA.
Bovendien: BPA lekt uit het plastic bij temperaturen van 70 graden en hoger. Wie geeft er nou een flesje van 70 graden aan een baby?
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 09:48
Mwah. Ik denk deels wel: als jke alle artikelen leest, komt er telkens terug dat het gaat om een vermoeden van een risico. Dathet alleen lekt bij temperaturen van 70 graden en hoger. Dat BPA af te spoelen is. Ik zie het probleem dus niet: als je de flesjes steriliseert, spoel je zedaarna af met koud water. Je geeft geen flesjes met vloeistoffen van 70 graden aan een kind, dus dat is het probleem ook niet.
Bij kunstvoeding is in ieder geval bewezen dat er een verhoogd gezondheidsrisico, maar ik zie geen enkele winkel dat spul uit de schappen halen. Het gaat hier om een vermoeden vanschadelijkheid, en sdan weten ze dus ook nog niet welke hoeveelheden schadelijk zouden kunnen zijn.
Net als kaneel tijdens je zwangerschap: ja, dat kan schadelijk zijn: als je 2 kilo per dag eet.
Bij kunstvoeding is in ieder geval bewezen dat er een verhoogd gezondheidsrisico, maar ik zie geen enkele winkel dat spul uit de schappen halen. Het gaat hier om een vermoeden vanschadelijkheid, en sdan weten ze dus ook nog niet welke hoeveelheden schadelijk zouden kunnen zijn.
Net als kaneel tijdens je zwangerschap: ja, dat kan schadelijk zijn: als je 2 kilo per dag eet.
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 09:59
Sorry, maar ik vind het zo knap, hoe een discussie die totaal niet over flesvoeding gaat zo verdraaid wordt dat het er ineens wel over gaat. Ongelooflijk, ik lees wat meer dan ik reageer hier. En ik heb best veel zinnige dingen gelezen van tilalia, maar dit slaat werkelijk als een lul op een drumstel. Het gaat hier over de fles, niet over de inhoud ervan. ( Wordt er trouwens nooit moedermelk met een fles gegeven? )
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 10:00
Uh, dat doe ik dus juist niet: na steriliseren blijf ik liefst helemaal van de flesjes af.
Omdat we nogal wat slepen met flesjes van en naar het KDV lijken glazen flesjes me een stuk riskanter dan plastic dat zelfs bij blootstelling aan hoge temperaturen geen problemen veroorzaakt (er worden geen normen overschreden, maar het gat tussen de gemeten waarde en de norm is niet groot genoeg - wat voor raar soort norm-inflatie is dat? De bedoeling van een norm is toch zeker niet dat je daarboven nog een gat nodig hebt om veilig te zijn?)
Bij de titel van dit topic dacht ik trouwens dat het zou gaan over flessen met gevaarlijke schoonmaakmiddelen enzo
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 10:04
Ik probeerde de paniek enigszins te relativeren. Het gaat hier inderdaad niet om bv-versus fv. Sterker nog: de meeste kolven zijn van hetzelfde spul gemaakt met derhalve dezelfde 'risico's '. En als je je kolf (en je flesjes) in de vaatwasser doet, zijn ze ook gesteriliseerd en is het algemene advies om em naderhand even af te spoelen, vanwege vaatwaspoederrestjes. Dan speol je dus ook de eventuele gelekte BPA weg. Ik zie het probleem dus niet.
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 10:07
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Ik zie nu wel een mooi argument in de 'bv in het openbaar-discussie', waar veel mensen roepen "Dan geef je toch een flesje gekolfde mm?'
Ehm, nou, nee, sorry, da's slecht voor de baby
En dan doen we daarna tot welke leeftijd bv nog "kan" en vanaf wanneer het ranzig\raar\gek wordt.
Zo ! En dan kunnen we nu weer allemaal normaal doen....
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dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 10:08
dinsdag 6 mei 2008 om 10:08
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Ik noem flesjes dus ook niet gevaarlijk
Das waar
Nou daar zijn we dan ook weer snel uit.
conclusie :
* het artikel is een beetje overdreven
* de kans is vrij klein dat het echt schadelijk si
* bv is gezonder
* er is 1 post nodig om kvgevende moers op de kast te krijgen
* fijne dag allemaal
Zo ! En dan kunnen we nu weer allemaal normaal doen....
