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vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:11
Ik probeer er uit alle macht omheen te lezen, maar de laatste pagina's valt dat niet mee.Zazamaenade schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:00Wordt dit een soort 'reageer-allemaal-op-Lange-topic' ?
Dan ben ik er even klaar mee.
Het is al maandenlang een herhaling van dezelfde obstinate onzin, aan de meest extreme kant van het Trump-spectrum gezocht, naar mijn idee bewust om te triggeren.
Dat heeft toch niets met discussiëren te maken?
Echt hoor
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:15
Lange-met-een-korte schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:00Natuurlijk niet. Ik kan alleen niet zo goed tegen het gejank van sommigen elke keer als hun ideologie aangepakt wordt.
Het komt waarschijnlijk als een verrassing, maar niemand hier is voorstander van Antifa of extreem links. Jouw ideologie deelt iedereen in in 'goed rechts' of 'extreem links', maar dat is precies dat, jouw ideologie. Heel toevallig dezelfde ideologie als Fox News, OAN en Newsmax. Of toevallig; we hebben allemaal kunnen zien wat het gevolg is als je teveel van die ideologie krijgt gevoerd.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:43
Iemand al op de hoogte van toiletgate?
Can't make this shit up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... d-kushner/
Can't make this shit up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... d-kushner/
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:45
Hetvrijewoord schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:43Iemand al op de hoogte van toiletgate?
Can't make this shit up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... d-kushner/
Plak een stukje, als je wil?
Ik ben wel toe aan wat Trumpkliek-leedvermaak.
nounou
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:47
Zazamaenade schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:45Plak een stukje, als je wil?
Ik ben wel toe aan wat Trumpkliek-leedvermaak.
Erg lang,want het is een heel verhaal.
De grift is real zullen we maar zeggen...
Komt in de volgende post.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:49
The $3,000-a-month toilet for the Ivanka Trump/Jared Kushner Secret Service detail
Many U.S. Secret Service agents have stood guard in Washington’s elite Kalorama neighborhood, home over the years to Cabinet secretaries and former presidents. Those agents have had to worry about death threats, secure perimeters and suspicious strangers. But with the arrival of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, they had a new worry: finding a toilet.
Instructed not to use any of the half-dozen bathrooms inside the couple’s house, the Secret Service detail assigned to President Trump’s daughter and son-in-law spent months searching for a reliable restroom to use on the job, according to neighbors and law enforcement officials. After resorting to a porta-potty, as well as bathrooms at the nearby home of former president Barack Obama and the not-so-nearby residence of Vice President Pence, the agents finally found a toilet to call their own.
The White House asked to borrow a van Gogh. The Guggenheim offered a gold toilet instead.
But it came at a cost to U.S. taxpayers. Since September 2017, the federal government has been spending $3,000 a month — more than $100,000 to date — to rent a basement studio, with a bathroom, from a neighbor of the Kushner family.
A White House spokesperson denied that Trump and Kushner restricted agents from their 5,000-square-foot home, with its six bedrooms and 6.5 bathrooms, and asserted that it was the Secret Service’s decision not to allow the protective detail inside. That account is disputed by a law enforcement official familiar with the situation, who said the agents were kept out at the family’s request.
A spokeswoman for the Secret Service initially declined to comment, writing in an email that the agency “does not discuss the means, methods or resources utilized to carry out our protective mission.”
But on Thursday evening, eight hours after this story appeared online, she sent a second email with a new statement, saying that the Secret Service tries to have minimal impact on households it protects. “In accordance with this practice, Secret Service personnel do not request access to the facilities at private residences," she wrote. "Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have not denied Secret Service personnel access to their home to include use of the restroom.”
The Kalorama home of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner in Northwest Washington. (Michael S. Williamson/The Washington Post)
Arrangements that allow for some distance between Secret Service agents and those they guard are not unusual, particularly when the agency’s “means, methods or resources” involve indoor plumbing. The people who qualify for such protection often occupy expensive, sprawling properties where a detail can use a garage, pool house or other outbuilding as a command post, break room and bathroom.
The episode in Kalorama is unusual because of the lengths to which the agents’ exile took them. In addition to their reliance on the restrooms used by fellow agents assigned to the Obamas and Pences, the detail occasionally popped into neighborhood businesses to avail themselves of the facilities.
“It’s the first time I ever heard of a Secret Service detail having to go to these extremes to find a bathroom,” said one law enforcement official familiar with the situation.
The agents’ bizarre odyssey played out in full view of a wealthy enclave in Northwest Washington, where many deplore Trump’s presidency and have expressed frustration over what they view as the Kushner family’s disregard for their neighbors. The community also includes multiple embassies and a house owned by Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon and owner of The Washington Post.
The blockade of precious street parking spaces by the Trump/Kushner Secret Service detail roiled the neighborhood early in 2017. The porta-potty erected for agents further enraged residents unaccustomed to such sights on stately Tracy Place NW. As the Trump administration enters its final days with the president impeached a second time for inciting a deadly attack on the Capitol, eyes in Kalorama are peeled for the sight of moving trucks.
A walking tour of Washington’s Kalorama neighborhood
The Washington Post's Kathy Orton held a Facebook Live walking tour of the Kalorama neighborhood in 2017, one of the most expensive, exclusive areas in D.C. (The Washington Post)
“They sort of came in with the attitude, like, ‘We are royalty,’” Dianne Bruce, who until recently lived across the street, said of Kushner and Trump. “When they put the porta-potty right outside on the sidewalk we weren’t allowed to walk on, that was when people in the neighborhood said, ‘That’s really not acceptable.’”
Bruce said she felt sympathy for the family’s protective detail as she watched agents trying to balance the call of duty with nature’s call.
“These poor people,” she remembers thinking when the porta-potty was hauled away. “What, are they going to have to get in their cars” to go to the bathroom?
They were, and they did.
Two law enforcement officials said the bathrooms inside the Trump/Kushner home were declared off-limits to the people protecting them from the beginning. One official did not know the reason for this restriction, while the other said it was instigated by the couple. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of security arrangements for the president’s family.
White House spokesman Judd Deere denied that Trump and Kushner ever requested that their Secret Service detail not use the bathrooms in their home.
“When discussions regarding protecting their home were initially had in 2017, Ivanka and Jared made clear that their home would always be open to the incredible men and women on their detail. It was only after a decision by the [Secret Service] was made that their detail sought other accommodations,” Deere wrote in an email. “The Kushners have a tremendous amount of respect for the servicemen and women on their detail and for the United States Secret Service as a whole. Their home will always be open to them and they have immense gratitude for their service over the last four years.”
District Department of Transportation staff determine where to replace two-hour-zone parking signs as Secret Service agents guard Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner's Kalorama home in 2017. (Photo by J. Lawler Duggan/For The Washington Post)
District Department of Transportation staff determine where to replace two-hour-zone parking signs as Secret Service agents guard Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner's Kalorama home in 2017. (J. Lawler Duggan/For The Washington Post)
The porta-potty was the agency’s initial solution to the protective detail’s dilemma, but it was removed in the face of the neighborhood’s protests. After that, according to the law enforcement officials, the agents began using a bathroom in a garage at the Obamas’ house, which the former president’s protective detail had turned into a command post.
The Obamas did not use the garage, so the extra traffic to and from the command post caused no problem. Yet this solution, too, was short-lived after a Secret Service supervisor from the Trump/Kushner detail left an unpleasant mess in the Obama bathroom at some point before the fall of 2017, according to a person briefed on the event. That prompted the leaders of the Obama detail to ban the agents up the street from ever returning.
The agents assigned to the president’s daughter and son-in-law began driving a mile to Pence’s home at the Naval Observatory, where they were allowed to use a bathroom in a stand-alone guard station. If they didn’t have time for that excursion, the law enforcement officials said, they relied on the hospitality of nearby restaurants.
So when the Secret Service knocked on the door of Kay Kendall in September 2017, she was not surprised to learn why.
“I think it was very clear that they just needed a place to take a shower, take a break, use the facilities, have lunch,” said Kendall, who is chairwoman of the D.C. Commission on the Arts and Humanities and is married to Jack Davies, founder of AOL International. “I’m happy to be able to have helped them.”
Apart from the Kalorama house where she lives, Kendall owns a home across the street from Trump and Kushner. That house has a basement unit, including a bathroom, that is accessible from the rear. She thought of breaking that space off and ran the idea by the house’s tenant, former Connecticut congressman Anthony “Toby” Moffett Jr.
“I told her, ‘It’s fine, if you reduce the rent,’” Moffett recalled.
General Services Administration records indicate that the lease of the 820-square-foot basement on Tracy Place NW began on Sept. 27, 2017. It is due to expire on Sept. 26 of this year, at which point the federal government will have paid a total of $144,000 for the space.
Secret Service agents typically seek low-profile location for their command post and restroom, said Steve Atkiss, who served as special assistant for operations to former president George W. Bush and chief of staff at U.S. Customs and Border Protection. For example, former White House chief of staff Andy Card had a trailer set up for his protective detail at the end of his block in Virginia, Atkiss recalled. At the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, a building was devoted to the security details of two former presidents and their families, he said.
“I’ve seen it accomplished 1,000 different ways,” Atkiss said. “They don’t want to be in their personal space.”
In Kalorama, the Kushner/Trump agents were pleased with their new digs, the law enforcement officials said. The studio had plenty of natural light. Some considered it akin to a well-heeled lawyer’s study. Most importantly, it opened on a tidy bathroom.
“It’s been no big deal,” Moffett said. “They have been very nice to our grandchildren.”
This basement unit being used by the Secret Service is across the street from the home of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. (Michael S. Williamson/The Washington Post)
Trump’s children brought Secret Service money to the family business with their visits, records show
The Secret Service has repeatedly incurred serious costs from providing protection to President Trump’s children. In October, The Post reported that Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. had enriched their family’s business, as the Trump Organization charged the federal government at least $238,000 for agents’ lodgings when the trio and their families visited Trump properties. Trump says he lost billions of dollars being president instead of running his business, which his sons have operated the past four years..
Deere declined to comment on how long Trump and Kushner plan to stay in Kalorama after President Trump leaves office next week.
Some have mixed feelings about the couple’s presence in the neighborhood. Mario Castillo, a Republican lobbyist who lives on Obama’s block, said he faults Kushner and Trump for their roles in the Trump administration but has never had problems with them as neighbors. He said he once encountered Kushner on the sidewalk on a Sunday morning. The president’s son-in-law was dressed in a suit with no tie.
“We stared at each other and I said, 'Hello neighbor,” Castillo recalled. “And he said, ‘Are the children making too much noise?’”
Others are looking forward to their exit.
“I’ll be very happy to see them go,” said Marti Robinson, a trial attorney who lives across the street and was an Obama-appointed member of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. “I want my nice, quiet neighborhood back."
On a recent Tuesday, some quiet seemed to have returned. There was no sign of activity at the Kushner family’s residence, with its gray exterior shutters and white walls of brick. Black SUVs were parked in front.
A door to one of those SUVs opened, revealing what was, for the moment, the street’s only sign of life: A man wearing a dark suit, badge and crimson tie. He walked purposefully across the street, arms straight at his sides, and disappeared behind the house whose basement is being rented by the U.S. government. Five minutes later, he reemerged, recrossed the street, and stepped back into his vehicle.
Bron: Washington POst
Many U.S. Secret Service agents have stood guard in Washington’s elite Kalorama neighborhood, home over the years to Cabinet secretaries and former presidents. Those agents have had to worry about death threats, secure perimeters and suspicious strangers. But with the arrival of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, they had a new worry: finding a toilet.
Instructed not to use any of the half-dozen bathrooms inside the couple’s house, the Secret Service detail assigned to President Trump’s daughter and son-in-law spent months searching for a reliable restroom to use on the job, according to neighbors and law enforcement officials. After resorting to a porta-potty, as well as bathrooms at the nearby home of former president Barack Obama and the not-so-nearby residence of Vice President Pence, the agents finally found a toilet to call their own.
The White House asked to borrow a van Gogh. The Guggenheim offered a gold toilet instead.
But it came at a cost to U.S. taxpayers. Since September 2017, the federal government has been spending $3,000 a month — more than $100,000 to date — to rent a basement studio, with a bathroom, from a neighbor of the Kushner family.
A White House spokesperson denied that Trump and Kushner restricted agents from their 5,000-square-foot home, with its six bedrooms and 6.5 bathrooms, and asserted that it was the Secret Service’s decision not to allow the protective detail inside. That account is disputed by a law enforcement official familiar with the situation, who said the agents were kept out at the family’s request.
A spokeswoman for the Secret Service initially declined to comment, writing in an email that the agency “does not discuss the means, methods or resources utilized to carry out our protective mission.”
But on Thursday evening, eight hours after this story appeared online, she sent a second email with a new statement, saying that the Secret Service tries to have minimal impact on households it protects. “In accordance with this practice, Secret Service personnel do not request access to the facilities at private residences," she wrote. "Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have not denied Secret Service personnel access to their home to include use of the restroom.”
The Kalorama home of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner in Northwest Washington. (Michael S. Williamson/The Washington Post)
Arrangements that allow for some distance between Secret Service agents and those they guard are not unusual, particularly when the agency’s “means, methods or resources” involve indoor plumbing. The people who qualify for such protection often occupy expensive, sprawling properties where a detail can use a garage, pool house or other outbuilding as a command post, break room and bathroom.
The episode in Kalorama is unusual because of the lengths to which the agents’ exile took them. In addition to their reliance on the restrooms used by fellow agents assigned to the Obamas and Pences, the detail occasionally popped into neighborhood businesses to avail themselves of the facilities.
“It’s the first time I ever heard of a Secret Service detail having to go to these extremes to find a bathroom,” said one law enforcement official familiar with the situation.
The agents’ bizarre odyssey played out in full view of a wealthy enclave in Northwest Washington, where many deplore Trump’s presidency and have expressed frustration over what they view as the Kushner family’s disregard for their neighbors. The community also includes multiple embassies and a house owned by Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon and owner of The Washington Post.
The blockade of precious street parking spaces by the Trump/Kushner Secret Service detail roiled the neighborhood early in 2017. The porta-potty erected for agents further enraged residents unaccustomed to such sights on stately Tracy Place NW. As the Trump administration enters its final days with the president impeached a second time for inciting a deadly attack on the Capitol, eyes in Kalorama are peeled for the sight of moving trucks.
A walking tour of Washington’s Kalorama neighborhood
The Washington Post's Kathy Orton held a Facebook Live walking tour of the Kalorama neighborhood in 2017, one of the most expensive, exclusive areas in D.C. (The Washington Post)
“They sort of came in with the attitude, like, ‘We are royalty,’” Dianne Bruce, who until recently lived across the street, said of Kushner and Trump. “When they put the porta-potty right outside on the sidewalk we weren’t allowed to walk on, that was when people in the neighborhood said, ‘That’s really not acceptable.’”
Bruce said she felt sympathy for the family’s protective detail as she watched agents trying to balance the call of duty with nature’s call.
“These poor people,” she remembers thinking when the porta-potty was hauled away. “What, are they going to have to get in their cars” to go to the bathroom?
They were, and they did.
Two law enforcement officials said the bathrooms inside the Trump/Kushner home were declared off-limits to the people protecting them from the beginning. One official did not know the reason for this restriction, while the other said it was instigated by the couple. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of security arrangements for the president’s family.
White House spokesman Judd Deere denied that Trump and Kushner ever requested that their Secret Service detail not use the bathrooms in their home.
“When discussions regarding protecting their home were initially had in 2017, Ivanka and Jared made clear that their home would always be open to the incredible men and women on their detail. It was only after a decision by the [Secret Service] was made that their detail sought other accommodations,” Deere wrote in an email. “The Kushners have a tremendous amount of respect for the servicemen and women on their detail and for the United States Secret Service as a whole. Their home will always be open to them and they have immense gratitude for their service over the last four years.”
District Department of Transportation staff determine where to replace two-hour-zone parking signs as Secret Service agents guard Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner's Kalorama home in 2017. (Photo by J. Lawler Duggan/For The Washington Post)
District Department of Transportation staff determine where to replace two-hour-zone parking signs as Secret Service agents guard Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner's Kalorama home in 2017. (J. Lawler Duggan/For The Washington Post)
The porta-potty was the agency’s initial solution to the protective detail’s dilemma, but it was removed in the face of the neighborhood’s protests. After that, according to the law enforcement officials, the agents began using a bathroom in a garage at the Obamas’ house, which the former president’s protective detail had turned into a command post.
The Obamas did not use the garage, so the extra traffic to and from the command post caused no problem. Yet this solution, too, was short-lived after a Secret Service supervisor from the Trump/Kushner detail left an unpleasant mess in the Obama bathroom at some point before the fall of 2017, according to a person briefed on the event. That prompted the leaders of the Obama detail to ban the agents up the street from ever returning.
The agents assigned to the president’s daughter and son-in-law began driving a mile to Pence’s home at the Naval Observatory, where they were allowed to use a bathroom in a stand-alone guard station. If they didn’t have time for that excursion, the law enforcement officials said, they relied on the hospitality of nearby restaurants.
So when the Secret Service knocked on the door of Kay Kendall in September 2017, she was not surprised to learn why.
“I think it was very clear that they just needed a place to take a shower, take a break, use the facilities, have lunch,” said Kendall, who is chairwoman of the D.C. Commission on the Arts and Humanities and is married to Jack Davies, founder of AOL International. “I’m happy to be able to have helped them.”
Apart from the Kalorama house where she lives, Kendall owns a home across the street from Trump and Kushner. That house has a basement unit, including a bathroom, that is accessible from the rear. She thought of breaking that space off and ran the idea by the house’s tenant, former Connecticut congressman Anthony “Toby” Moffett Jr.
“I told her, ‘It’s fine, if you reduce the rent,’” Moffett recalled.
General Services Administration records indicate that the lease of the 820-square-foot basement on Tracy Place NW began on Sept. 27, 2017. It is due to expire on Sept. 26 of this year, at which point the federal government will have paid a total of $144,000 for the space.
Secret Service agents typically seek low-profile location for their command post and restroom, said Steve Atkiss, who served as special assistant for operations to former president George W. Bush and chief of staff at U.S. Customs and Border Protection. For example, former White House chief of staff Andy Card had a trailer set up for his protective detail at the end of his block in Virginia, Atkiss recalled. At the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, a building was devoted to the security details of two former presidents and their families, he said.
“I’ve seen it accomplished 1,000 different ways,” Atkiss said. “They don’t want to be in their personal space.”
In Kalorama, the Kushner/Trump agents were pleased with their new digs, the law enforcement officials said. The studio had plenty of natural light. Some considered it akin to a well-heeled lawyer’s study. Most importantly, it opened on a tidy bathroom.
“It’s been no big deal,” Moffett said. “They have been very nice to our grandchildren.”
This basement unit being used by the Secret Service is across the street from the home of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. (Michael S. Williamson/The Washington Post)
Trump’s children brought Secret Service money to the family business with their visits, records show
The Secret Service has repeatedly incurred serious costs from providing protection to President Trump’s children. In October, The Post reported that Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. had enriched their family’s business, as the Trump Organization charged the federal government at least $238,000 for agents’ lodgings when the trio and their families visited Trump properties. Trump says he lost billions of dollars being president instead of running his business, which his sons have operated the past four years..
Deere declined to comment on how long Trump and Kushner plan to stay in Kalorama after President Trump leaves office next week.
Some have mixed feelings about the couple’s presence in the neighborhood. Mario Castillo, a Republican lobbyist who lives on Obama’s block, said he faults Kushner and Trump for their roles in the Trump administration but has never had problems with them as neighbors. He said he once encountered Kushner on the sidewalk on a Sunday morning. The president’s son-in-law was dressed in a suit with no tie.
“We stared at each other and I said, 'Hello neighbor,” Castillo recalled. “And he said, ‘Are the children making too much noise?’”
Others are looking forward to their exit.
“I’ll be very happy to see them go,” said Marti Robinson, a trial attorney who lives across the street and was an Obama-appointed member of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. “I want my nice, quiet neighborhood back."
On a recent Tuesday, some quiet seemed to have returned. There was no sign of activity at the Kushner family’s residence, with its gray exterior shutters and white walls of brick. Black SUVs were parked in front.
A door to one of those SUVs opened, revealing what was, for the moment, the street’s only sign of life: A man wearing a dark suit, badge and crimson tie. He walked purposefully across the street, arms straight at his sides, and disappeared behind the house whose basement is being rented by the U.S. government. Five minutes later, he reemerged, recrossed the street, and stepped back into his vehicle.
Bron: Washington POst
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:49
Zazamaenade schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:45Plak een stukje, als je wil?
Ik ben wel toe aan wat Trumpkliek-leedvermaak.
Ivanka en Jared hebben 3000 dollar per maand aan belastinggeld betaald zodat hun secret service mannetjes hun wc niet hoefden te gebruiken.
Typisch republikeins: zuinig op de centjes van de overheid.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 17:50
Jammer dat jij niet weet wat censuur inhoudt.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 18:01
Biden is nog niet eens ingezworen of er wordt al aan zijn stoelpoten gezaagd door de uiterst-linkse leden in de democratische partij. Ze willen de vrije pers al gaan beteugelen zodat ze kunnen bepalen wat de waarheid is die naar buiten mag worden gebracht. The Squad gaat Biden veel hoofdpijn bezorgen. Nu is AOC ook al niet meer tevreden met de stimulus check die Biden een paar weken geleden had beloofd.
Zoals ik maanden geleden al had gezegd, de steun van Antifa en de bijbehorende rellen om Amerika te destabiliseren komen met een prijs voor Biden.
En als ultieme voorspelling: Biden gaat het geen 2 jaar uithouden.
Zoals ik maanden geleden al had gezegd, de steun van Antifa en de bijbehorende rellen om Amerika te destabiliseren komen met een prijs voor Biden.
En als ultieme voorspelling: Biden gaat het geen 2 jaar uithouden.
Let’s Go Brandon!
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 18:13
Volgens Snopes vond deze ontmoeting in november 2019 plaats, dus niet vlak voor de bestorming van het Capitool, zoals je zou kunnen vermoeden aan de hand van deze tweet.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/linds ... roud-boys/
nounou
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 18:15
Zag het vanochtend op Reddit langskomen ja, wtf.Hetvrijewoord schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:43Iemand al op de hoogte van toiletgate?
Can't make this shit up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... d-kushner/
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 18:26
Amerikaanse Congresleden bang te worden vermoord door extreme collega's
https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/amerikaans ... ~aed729a9/
https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/amerikaans ... ~aed729a9/
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 18:28
Hetvrijewoord schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:49The $3,000-a-month toilet for the Ivanka Trump/Jared Kushner Secret Service detail
.
Bron: Washington POst
Dank!
Hemel wat een armoe.
nounou
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 18:30
Ze gingen serieus eerst maar bij Obama en Biden naar de wc omdat ze niet bij Ivanka mochten?Hetvrijewoord schreef: ↑15-01-2021 17:43Iemand al op de hoogte van toiletgate?
Can't make this shit up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... d-kushner/
Ik zie Obama al voor me: jongens, kom maar gewoon even hier plassen.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 20:35
Justitie VS: Meer dan 270 Capitool-bestormers geïdentificeerd, 100 opgepakt
https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/justitie-v ... ~ae679b64/
Ik krijg het er koud van.
https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/justitie-v ... ~ae679b64/
Ik krijg het er koud van.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 21:02
Lange-met-een-korte schreef: ↑15-01-2021 13:08https://www.foxnews.com/politics/left-w ... pitol-riot
FYI
Het betreft John Sullivan of beter bekend als 'Activist John'.Lange-met-een-korte schreef: ↑15-01-2021 13:23Het blijft 1 van de relschoppers die berecht moeten worden. Overal lees je over die gozer met die hoorns op zijn kop. Dit pikt dan weer niemand op. Toeval...?
Hij is rechts.
Broer James is mede oprichter van een Pro-Trump organisatie
En hij moet inderdaad berecht worden, zijn we het toch nog ergens over eens.
Dat had ik overigens ook gevonden als hij voor links, onder, boven, midden of ronddraaiend aan het relschoppen was.
https://twitter.com/rebellionbaby/statu ... 06528?s=21
Whoever said "Out of sight, out of mind" never had a spider disappear in their bedroom.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 21:19
Hakeem Jeffries twitterde een paar dagen geleden: "Donald Trump Jr. is now under criminal investigation in the District of Columbia. Keep the pressure on every single person who incited the violent attack on the Capitol."
Inmiddels is er wat meer bekend:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ors-in-d-c
Inmiddels is er wat meer bekend:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ors-in-d-c
Whoever said "Out of sight, out of mind" never had a spider disappear in their bedroom.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 21:45
ikBedoelHetGoed schreef: ↑15-01-2021 20:35Justitie VS: Meer dan 270 Capitool-bestormers geïdentificeerd, 100 opgepakt
https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/justitie-v ... ~ae679b64/
Ik krijg het er koud van.
Ik ook. Vooral dat volksvertegenwoordigers niet alleen hebben te vrezen van Proud Boys en ander gewelddadig volk maar ook van hun collega's en/of van de staf die op het Capitool werkt. Dat lijkt me zenuwslopend.
nounou
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 21:54
Hij schrijft misschien met rechts.EnglishmaninNewYork schreef: ↑15-01-2021 21:02Het betreft John Sullivan of beter bekend als 'Activist John'.
Hij is rechts.
Broer James is mede oprichter van een Pro-Trump organisatie
En hij moet inderdaad berecht worden, zijn we het toch nog ergens over eens.
https://twitter.com/rebellionbaby/statu ... 06528?s=21
Maar John Sullivan is een linkse activist en oprichter van de groep Insurgence USA. In juni vorig jaar al eens gearresteerd voor het organiseren van een protest waarbij een dode is gevallen.
De omschrijving van zijn eigen website over zijn groep:
We then set out to empower and uplifting black and indigenous voices. We want to build local powers to enable the community to intervene in violence enacted by the state and government vigilantes.
De iemand hier nog van kan maken dat hij rechts is pure slechtheid of domheid.
Let’s Go Brandon!
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 21:55
EnglishmaninNewYork schreef: ↑15-01-2021 21:02Het betreft John Sullivan of beter bekend als 'Activist John'.
Hij is rechts.
Broer James is mede oprichter van een Pro-Trump organisatie
En hij moet inderdaad berecht worden, zijn we het toch nog ergens over eens.
Dat had ik overigens ook gevonden als hij voor links, onder, boven, midden of ronddraaiend aan het relschoppen was.
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Misschien ben ik te naïef maar 'agent provocateur'/'infitrator' wordt door sommigen die alleen in termen van vrienden en vijanden kunnen denken snel uit de kast getrokken. Het idee dat er mensen bestaan die wat op de golven van ophef meedeinen en daar een graantje van meepikken komt niet in ze op.
Ik heb het weblog van die John Sullivan bekeken; het zou best kunnen dat hij het allemaal verrekte interessant vindt, maar niet, of slechts vagelijk, vanwege ideologische overwegingen.
Het gebruiken van de terminologie van een beweging is dan alleen een manier om zich aan te passen zodat hij geaccepteerd wordt.
nounou
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 22:16
Zazamaenade schreef: ↑15-01-2021 21:55Misschien ben ik te naïef maar 'agent provocateur'/'infitrator' wordt door sommigen die alleen in termen van vrienden en vijanden kunnen denken snel uit de kast getrokken. Het idee dat er mensen bestaan die wat op de golven van ophef meedeinen en daar een graantje van meepikken komt niet in ze op.
Ik heb het weblog van die John Sullivan bekeken; het zou best kunnen dat hij het allemaal verrekte interessant vindt, maar niet, of slechts vagelijk, vanwege ideologische overwegingen.
Het gebruiken van de terminologie van een beweging is dan alleen een manier om zich aan te passen zodat hij geaccepteerd wordt.
Hij heeft niet maar 1 weblog. Er is een hele waslijst aan sites, forums waar hij actief is / actief is geweest. Een aantal daarvan zijn inmiddels niet meer beschikbaar, voor anderen heb je een wachtwoord nodig. Open het draadje op de twitter link maar eens.
Whoever said "Out of sight, out of mind" never had a spider disappear in their bedroom.
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 22:17
vrijdag 15 januari 2021 om 22:32
EnglishmaninNewYork schreef: ↑15-01-2021 22:16Hij heeft niet maar 1 weblog. Er is een hele waslijst aan sites, forums waar hij actief is / actief is geweest. Een aantal daarvan zijn inmiddels niet meer beschikbaar, voor anderen heb je een wachtwoord nodig. Open het draadje op de twitter link maar eens.
Ik heb er even vluchtig naar gekeken, het kan inderdaad ook een trol of provocateur zijn.
Uit ervaring, van al lang geleden, weet ik dat mensen soms anderen gaan wantrouwen om de kleinste voorvallen, en al hun woorden en daden door een heel nauwe koker gaan bezien. Vooral bij ideologisch bevlogen mensen die in het nauw zitten tref je dat nogal eens aan. Dat was de reden dat ik zo reageerde.
Op mij kwam hij over als een sensatiebelust figuur, die door te filmen op plekken kan komen waar de meesten zich niet wagen als ze daar niet de noodzaak toe zien. Misschien heb ik te snel geoordeeld.
We zullen zien waar de politie of de FBI mee komt.
nounou
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